Kenan Evren's 29 years in September 12's in 2007 to publish an interview Bila'ya Milliyet writer Fikret. The architect of former President Kenan September 12 coup Evren'nin days and the Kurdish question on September 12 where he interviewed striking özeleştirilerde ..
PEOPLE OF THE UNIVERSE QUESTIONS CEZAEVI DİYARBAKIR to be
"The Kurdish officials in the Southeast to serve the needs to know. Solid manner that does not work. But I must be Tedrisat Turkish. Already free, there are courses. Official training which we have little." Universe: " 'As the feed should not we?" I said. Özal,' Do not do Paşam. Enter the EU can not 'he said. I, I said,' Then you remove it. '20 people killed, I'm her forever gonna live. This is my philosophy not for. "
PKK Diyarbakir prison, known income. The torture and ill-treatment there is said that the PKK strengthened. Kenan Evren asked to the Diyarbakir Prison ago:
- Do not at Diyarbakir prison, being very upset, I'm angry. I then Başkanı'yım States. We are managing the state. We do not manage the prison! What that is, to manage the President of Diyarbakir prison? Do prisons due to me? Connected to the martial law commander. Also go in person to the commander of martial law to manage the prison, prison is not to look. Prison managers have got the gendarmes. That arrangement continues.
"But Paşam" he interjected I: You are at the beginning of the state. Responsibility of the military rule you. There are ones that connect to you ...
- All the prisons, there is already an organization founded in the days of yore, he continues.
So, you would connect it to what happened in Diyarbakir prison?
- I my opinion is that the guards in the prison, 12 had suffered in the period before September. Remember, in the period of anarchy manage offenders in prison and was there. They had passed into the hands of the administration. Prisoners, guards are caught, they beat them, take hostages ... Rate management, not the prisoners in the hands of guards. It took guards too. When they condemned the September 12 took revenge from. Of course, under the martial law commander also there to receive the discipline they gave top officers. These officers also have done training, have done training, the principles of Ataturk, the revolutions they teach. They made the national anthem says.
DE Eza NOW not
Later told the torture of prisoners. Books written.
- Now, do they torment, torture, do not say such a thing. A word from my mouth that I did not quit. In fact, I remember: a petty officer in the east were tortured. His conviction came to me. I approve, I've signed. A policeman also was convicted. They would be given to the court. Him, I do not load on me?
If, I, 'blah blah blah blah man tortured in prison, do' like I was at ... If, torture, September 12 in police stations before Did not? All were in police stations. So did you fall into police ill-treatment were made. We have police in the September 12 release, comfort sake. They did it again.
Inquiry is made. Are they able to say for certain procedures. They are using the information. Germans also had them do, the British, the Americans, the French also ... Did not they do? Once everyone was tortured. They've done it, then 'committed suicide' said the Germans, for the Baader-Meinhof gang ...
WHY did the prohibition KURDISH
Have blocked the Kurdish cause?
- 12 September, our mistake was it. We have forbidden to speak Kurdish. We ban follows: Speech in the rally, here or there will not speak Kurdish. We said at the school can not be Tedrisat Kurdish blah blah. We said why? I Başkanı'yken States, I went to school in a village. Does third grade, fourth grade you've joined, I do not remember. I opened the book, read See I said to the child. Haw, children can not read.
Had come to the fourth class, can not read Turkish. Girl I. There, I said. I went to the teacher, 'came to the fourth class, Turkish, can not read, how is this job? "I said. It was understood later that Kurdish teachers. Tedrisat of Kurdish doing. I turned and put a ban on Kurdish language. We can not be done in Kurdish Tedrisat. But, we put some heavy prohibited. After the ban was removed, but the mistake. I understand that mistakes later.
TURKISH - KURDISH will BIL
What do you think today in the Kurdish issue?
- Consider to Belgium. Flemish and Valonlar do not fight. I went to Canada Başkanı'yken General Staff. There I went to the Quebec region. Chief of Staff is browsing. Quebec French language. I went weird. 'In Canada, how's that? "I said. They said, 'This remains the region from France. After they leave, but an agreement, the people's own language will be adopted here, will use their own language at. In this region, the future civil service to citizens and English, and they have to know French. If it was mandatory to serve in the region. Now we will be serving as officer in the Southeast also needs to know Kurdish. Attending this manner does not work.
But Kurdish officials to learn how? When schools do not have to put it on?
- No. That happens. Tedrisat must be Turkish. The courses are taught in Kurdish already blah blah, they would even release.
States also will provide those who may know the two languages do you say?
- Already free, there are courses. Which we have little formal training.
But it would mean officers would know the verse well?
- Canada has done, the French, their minority ...
MOSUL going to ÖZAL ENTER
During the first Gulf War in 1991 the late Turgut Ozal wants to enter northern Iraq, Army Chief of Staff of the period Org. Resigns as opposed Torumtay Necip's known. Özal, in this regard Were you consulted? Do you really committed to making the North into Iraq was that?
- Yes. Would enter Mosul. It was the intention. I was at that time separated from the Presidency. I had settled in Marmaris. Özal was the president. He also had a summer resort in Marmaris (Okluk sheep plant the Presidency). Özal also there, feast on the occasion. I arrived in Marmaris, with next erkan. We spoke at home. He said: 'This is the United States during the Iraq campaign, and we let enter from the north, Mosul and we'll do it, what do you? "
As far as I understand, U.S. President Bush's father spoke. Mosul is installed on to your mind. So I understand. Baba has agreed with President Bush. Because such a decision can not by itself.
Then I said to him: 'Never to be doing such a thing. Entry of such an operation. After entering a very difficult operation and there can not recover from clay nose. That is a gayya well. But he can not escape from the quagmire will enter. We also take against the entire Arab world. "
Listen quietly to me. Said nothing. Also did not insist. Then Chief of Staff spoke with me for this job Torumtay. Later I would learn myself. He has opposed. He has ever spoken with Prime Minister Yildirim Akbulut, he has opposed. But again, this work is determined Özal, will enter Mosul.
However, chief of staff, 'not' saying he resigned, his job was it, made operational. But, Ozal's intention was it. Ozal's intention, I understand, but already Kirkuk, Mosul and the oil that did not leave us! Britain has. Us a certain percentage of oil money funds proposed, then settle for a wholesale funds dedicated to something, there will be based on a right that is not accepted for such an operation.
We then do the actual error we were. Now done. We can not claim a right. He therefore made an operation then. We had not done well ... Had been done, maybe the U.S. has fallen condition we are today used to fall. Used to enter, we could not go. I believe that my.
Let's not AS FOOD OR MIN
I was open about the universe Pasha executed:
Because many crimes've been executed in September 12. When you look right now Do you find that decision?
- Then we have the law apply it anyway. A new law did not remove. Turkish Penal Code which crime he ever anticipated death penalty if it were applied to the crime. Which of these actions that is being punished with death, they would receive the death penalty. Some say, "Why did you do in execution?" diye. To me, the law exists, the state is obliged to implement it. Let's also not executed feed?
State executions during your presidency was executed. Made during the 1984 execution of your presidency. Death penalty actually implemented. Finally, the EU candidate countries to the death penalty was abolished in 2002. EU de 'which we have the death penalty, but not actual implementation since 1984, we will already removed' was said. You on your presidency that was not applied?
- Except one. 1984 and then to one application. I made a speech in Mus, you know, 'as not let the food? "Diye. Then the Prime Minister Turgut Ozal, said, 'Do not Make My Pasha. Otherwise unable to enter the EU. 'I' I said, 'Then you remove it.' Then Ozal said, 'Would you favor abolition?' I, 'I'm not fans, but what do' I said.
Are you still favor the death penalty?
- Sure. A lot of people are killed. One thing I do not live bomb, he will go too. Placed bombs. 12 people, killing more than 20 people. He killed 20 people, I'll have it forever. This philosophy is not for me.
AMERICA USING U.S. has
Universe, the idea of entering Mosul Ozal's support did not realize could not tell us after I asked:
Özal, but did not enter Mosul 1 The Gulf War, U.S. President, Bush's father was very helpful. For example, in Adana Incirlik base was used. USA, 36 to Saddam parallel to the north and northern Iraq banned based in Incirlik in control of the hammer has the power. PKK has benefits too, moved to northern Iraq, and stronger. During this period, the peak output of terror again. What do you call these?
Tell it on: PKK, 1984 August Eruh attacked, you know. I looked no sound from the Prime Minister. Özal, was on holiday in Marmaris, I guess. Then I jumped I went to the region. I looked grave situation. Armed Forces immediately gave instructions, I get this job I said look at TSK.
Events in the next period of cross-border operation in northern Iraq several times I've done. We went to the Iranian border, the PKK from the region were clear. These operations had made it clear time with Saddam. Saddam's head was in trouble with Iran. Us had to.
Was a period of religious terrorism. These operations were successful. But, after 1 The Gulf War, then climbed again after 1991 terrorist. Once 36 Power was a mistake on the parallel and hammer. Ozal was a mistake. It gave opportunity to the United States. Do we have the result that we get? United States has used us.
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